Saucony Liberty ISO OG – 50 Mile Review

The Saucony Liberty ISO OG after 50 miles. Yeah, another shoe that version 2 has been released already. However, this is also a post that back in May I never thought that I would write, but here it is October and they finally made it to that magical 50 mile mark.

This review is too long for most readers, so if you don’t want to read a small book, here is the executive summary:

After about 25 miles of less than impressive runs in the Liberty ISO OGs back in May, I retired them to the closet and figured that I wouldn’t be running again in them anytime soon. After sitting in the closet for about 4 months, I decided that I would try the same operation on the inner bootie that I did on my Zealot 3s and it seemed to help a lot. I also changed the lacing pattern to get a more consistent fit each time I put them on and changed out the stock insole to an Ortholite one. These changes made a huge difference in how comfortable the Liberty ISOs were for me to run in and I have added them back into my regular running rotation.

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Running w/SD2 & Around the Pond Road

I got to run with SD2 out to Goodhue, which was nice. Before I found out I was going to run with her I had planned on doing at least 8.0, so I could get my 30 miles for the week. However, with the opportunity to run with Christie, I was not sure of how many I would get in.

I was pretty sure that she wasn’t interested in running that far.

The temps to start were chilly (hats and gloves), with a headwind out to Goodhue Road, so it was a bit harder than usual. We talked a little, but it was more a nice companionable run after the first mile. The pace was right where I wanted it to be all the way out. All I know was that it was nice to run with someone else for a change.

When we were just about to Goodhue Christie said she was doing to stop there for a minute. She had told me several times while we were running together that I could go ahead and that she planned to walk a lot on the way back. So we hadn’t really planned on doing the entire run together from the start.

So I turned left and headed down towards the Pond Road.

I was feeling really good, but didn’t pick up the pace all that much. Along the Pond Road I just cruised along. I knew that I was going to slow the pace a lot coming back up the bigger hills, so I was not trying for any land speed records.

At the bottom of Bartlett Hill, my right heel started to bother, but it wasn’t all that bad, so I kept going, but it continued to bother just enough that I didn’t want to do more than getting an even 9.0 miles just past the house.

When I took off my shoes my right sock had a huge hole in it, so I wasn’t surprised that the right heel bothered. Once I saw how my sock looked, I think I was more surprised that I didn’t have bigger issues with the right heel than I did.

I did get to run longer in the Liberty ISOs and they did just fine. The run would have been even better if my old socks hadn’t gotten that huge hole in the heel, but I have feeling that an old body is probably more to blame for how my feet feel towards the end of longer runs than the shoes I wear. I just have to be willing to actually admit it. 😉

The run itself was not anything special, it was all about putting one foot in front of the other, but it was nice to run the first part of the run with Christie.

Just Beat the Rains – RunLog 10-17-18

I think that for the foreseeable future I will plan on running in the afternoon, morning runs are just not happening. Nothing serious, but it just seems to be the way my schedule is working out right now. I will get back to my mid morning runs probably in November.

This morning was not the nicest and while this afternoon was absolutely gorgeous, however by the time I got out the door, the clouds were moving in and the breeze was picking up a little.

I wasn’t too sure about what I wanted to do, but after yesterday’s DNR in the running due to our flip/flop drive over to New Hampshire and back, to visit one of Mary’s relatives I needed to get a run in. So I headed out the door planning on at least 4.0 and if I was feeling good more.

The first mile went by fairly well and I decided to head towards the Town Office at the last minute. One of the those emergency pit stops in the woods was a necessity, then all systems were go. By the time I got to the Campbell Farm, I got this great idea of running down to the Lyons Road, which would end up being a 5.0 miler.

The only problem with that is that to get to the Lyons Road, I have to run on the Middle Road and at that time of day with Sidney being a commuter community, the road is very busy (well for our area). Today was no exception and I spent more time on the dirt shoulders of the Middle Road than I did anything else.

I had thought about running a bit further, but when I got back to the Campbell Farm, I could feel the occasional rain drop and the clouds looked very threatening.

So I just brought it straight back to the house. I actually was feeling quite good and even though I slowed a bit on the hills, I can’t really complain too much about the run itself.

I ran again in the Saucony Breakthru 4s and they just felt really comfortable the entire run, which is all I can ask of my shoes. I am really liking the Breakthru 4s so far they are wide enough in the forefoot, feel very cushioned and while the heel isn’t quite as snug as I would like, they are not bad either.

Once I got back to the house it was sprinkling pretty good and just about 5 minutes after I got in, the rains came.

The dogs were all shaking and even though we couldn’t hear any thunder, they did not like the incoming storm for some reason. As far as we could tell it was only a heavy rain and some wind. We had to sit on the couch with them until it passed they were shaking so much. Not sure what that was all about, because for most rain storms it doesn’t bother them too much? This time it did – quite a bit.

However, I got my run in and yes, it felt really good.

Rainy, Blustery Day and Saucony Liberty ISO Update

Some days you are the bug and some days the windshield, today well let me tell you a story about a man named Harold who runs way too much.

This morning was the perfect morning for a run, so of course I didn’t run then. There was just too much going on, so of course by the time I got to get out and get my run in, it was 52*F (not bad), a bit breezy and raining.

Now I won’t melt in the rain, it is more getting that gumption up to get out the door, then once you out there running…well it isn’t all that bad. Actually I have had some of my best runs in these conditions.

I wore the Saucony Liberty ISOs again today, after yesterday’s better run, I was interested in seeing how they felt two days in a row with those new insoles in. Also I wanted to really give them a good workout in nastier conditions and between the slime downback on the dirt road and the wet roads, it was a really great day to test them out.

This run was going to be purposely slower, I know that I can run well in the the Liberty ISOs and also wanted to know how they felt at slower paces.

It was raining so much that after a half mile I had to take my glasses off – this blind as a bat running that I love so much on the slime down back is always an adventure that I really don’t enjoy. It just means that I automatically slow down on the dirt road sections of the run, when the glasses get taken off. Also with the rain, I didn’t bother bringing my iPhone – no sense in creating a problem when there isn’t one.

I didn’t have any issues with the Liberty ISOs and while I really wasn’t into the run, I ran well for the conditions. Even though Garmin Connect claims it was 52*F, it was a damned raw 52* and the breeze picked up pretty good coming back against it. The first 4.0 miles were pretty good and I had to focus a little more on mile 5.0 to maintain the same pace.

That last 1.2 miles was just a slog. I was soaked through, even though I was sweating I was also starting to feel the cold more than I should have at that point in a run. I have a sneaking suspicion that the cold is going to bother me more this year, so that I might be doing more time on the treadmill during the winter than I usually do.

At least I will still be running.

Today’s run certainly was not in a warm rain, it turned into one of those cold miserable rains and I was pretty glad when I got done.

How did the Liberty ISOs do.

If this had been my first run in them, I would not have been searching all summer for a shoe to run in. My metatarsals did not bother me at all, there were no issues with grip on the pavement or slime down back, the shoes felt comfortable – not too firm or stiff. This is how the Liberty’s should have felt back in May.

Yes, I have made a few changes that have made them comfortable for me, but took a bit to get here and I really came close to never running in these shoes again, which would have been too bad. They are turning into a pretty good pair of running shoes for me.

Now to see how long they stay in my rotation. 🙂

Not a great run, but I learned a bit more about the Liberty ISOs and got some good miles in.

I might be doing something right, I got all three doggies on the coach with me, while I am writing this tonight.

Walking at Bond Brook & a 4.0 Miler Later

Something is going on with WordPress, I am not able to upload photos today? I will add them later.

This morning was the first real frost of the Fall or at least the first one where I had to scrape the windshield before heading out.

After yesterday’s good 8.0 miler where the Breakthru 4s did everything they were supposed to do. I didn’t want to do anything too overly difficult or long. Which meant that today was going to be something shorter and fairly easy.

But first Bennie and I took a trip to Augusta for a walk on the wild side over at Bond Brook.

I finally figured out where the other trailhead was near the bridge and we walked that trail until we got to the service road.

Once we got back to the other side of Tall Pines, I found a trail and we walked back down those trails until we got back to the bridge. We walked for about an hour and now that I have figured some of the newer to me trails out a little better, I will probably head back down there a few more times before the snow flies, only the next time I have a feeling I might do a run.

Speaking of running.

I didn’t get to run until a later in the afternoon, I had to get in lunch, my daily nap, some outside chores and just relax a little. I figured that a nice 4.0 miler would be about right.

Also I wanted to try out the Saucony Liberty ISO’s with a different insole to see how they felt. The Liberty’s feel just too darn firm for me, so I took the Ortholite insole out of my Salomon Sonic RAs and put them into the Liberty ISOs

Now I won’t say that it solved all of my issues with them!

However, within the first quarter mile, I could definitely tell a HUGE difference. I have never had a pair of running shoes feel this different, just by putting in a pair of insoles. They went from a harsh for me ride to a where they were comfortable. The rest of the run was more forgetting about the shoes firmness and just running.

Which gets me to the next issue with the Liberty ISOs, for me they seem to have a particular stride that they work best with and I can tell pretty quickly when I deviate from it. When I am hitting stride in them correctly, they are quiet and smooth, unfortunately, when I am off just a little they feel ungangly and I find myself fighting to get back to the proper stride again.

It might be that I just need to run more often in them, but…

Even so, I ran well in them, enough so that I had my 2nd fastest segment on the flats before Stevens Hill (just a second off my fastest time down there). My times didn’t end up being that fast, but at the same time I wasn’t attempting to run hard, but to run consistently…well except for that segment.

So the Liberty ISOs are a faster shoe, even though they are a heavier shoe compared to others in my rotation. So even though I have to fight to get the “right” stride, now that they feel more comfortable with the changes I have made to them, they are doing well by me.

Which I find fairly funny, because the Breakthru 4s while comfortable are not a shoe that I easily run faster in, they are over an ounce lighter than the Liberty ISOs. Sometimes it is more about how the shoes run, than how much they weigh.

Actually it was a pretty good day and I learned a lot about the Liberty ISOs and the trails at Bond Brook, so I consider it a very successful day

Friday’s 5.0 Miler – A Day Late

I started this last night, but I was just too damn drained to keep writing. So this is actually Friday’s RunLog post.

After taking yesterday (Thursday) off, I knew that I was going to get a few miles in today. It was just a question of when and where. We had to put new tires on Clifford (our van), do doggie day care, and grocery shop this morning. I got the doggie day care (referee duty) and everyone else got out of the house.

Lucky dogs, they got to spend time with me. I will have you know all three dogs and four cats survived the morning. 🙂 Oh yeah, I did as well.

Once we got settled again and someone else could referee, I headed out with a small difference. I decided to run in the Saucony Liberty v1 for the first time since May 19th. I liked the Liberty’s, but they didn’t seem to work with my feet, so I had decided to take a break from them for a few days.

Well that few days turned into a few months and since I have been resurrecting my Saucony rotation recently, it was appropriate to add back the Liberty’s.

I stopped running in them back in May for a couple of reasons:

1. They felt too damn firm and bothered my metatarsals when I ran more than 3-4 miles in them. I guess that is two reasons right there, but they were sort of related, so I put them together.

2. I had too many shoes going and not enough miles to go around.

So while I loved many things about the Liberty, there was not enough great stuff to keep me running in them with so many other options to choose from. Lately I have reduced the shoes that actually work for me down to a pretty reasonable number and decided to give some of the Saucony shoes another look.

I did a little relacing and cut about an inch incision into the front of the ISO Fit bootie to see if that alleviated the problems with the metatarsaglia that plagued me before with the Liberty’s. If that works, I will probably find a pair of white LockLaces to put in them.

During the run itself, the shoes were borderline very comfortable. They still feel too firm, but at the same time the Liberty’s didn’t cause that painful tingling sensation in my forefoot that had been the big issue in May. So there is cause for some optimism regarding keeping them in my current rotation.

However, I am pretty sure that after re-reading my RunLog entries from May, that I will have to replace the insole with something a little more forgiving (thicker) again, to combat the firmness in the forefoot. Otherwise I was very happy with the feel of the shoe while running.

It was a pretty perfect Fall day for nice run and the 5.0 miles went by pretty quickly. No serious pushing the pace, but a nice consistent effort throughout. I run fairly well in the Liberty’s, so it is worth the effort I am making to get them to work for me. The quality of the shoes and how long they should last if I can get them to fit properly would be nice.

Yeah, now to get the bill for fixing the Cherokee, it got towed down to the repair shop yesterday afternoon, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

Trip North Made My Day – RunLog 10-10-18

Today was a really great day for my Dad and I.

We made a road trip up above Greenville to let Dad and yeah, me as well…relive, re-visit, remember and retell things from days gone by. We visited a place that has been the locale of many stories that we have and also where my mother’s ashes were scattered nine years ago this week. I may have gotten some crap in my eyes from the wind blowing so hard off the lake.

Once we got to Greenville it started to rain pretty steady, but once we got up to the lake and got out of the van, it stopped raining and the sun tried to come out for minute. Yeah, it was just coincidence. 🙂

However, it is hard to believe that it has been that long since Mom died, but it has. It seems like it was just yesterday that I was talking with her, getting her advice or perspective on something that I was thinking about doing. I still miss her more than I will ever admit.

Another reason that we went up there today is that Dad’s health is not great and he doesn’t really have a lot of hope for any improvement going forward. He is doing better than we ever thought he would with all of the health issues he has, but as he said today “Everyday I wake-up, its another great day.”

He is a tough old Bastid, but he pretty much admitted that he thought this would probably be the last time he gets to go up there alive. I tried to dissuade that line of talk, but he is a realist and knows himself better than anyone else. Plus what I am seeing each time I go up to visit…well we will see.

While riding up we talked, Yankees (he’s a big fan) / Red Sox (I’m a big fan), Patriots, some politics, and remembered things. But mostly, I simply listened and I think that is what he wanted more than anything – he wanted to talk. He kept talking and I learned a lot about things that I thought I knew about, but like they say I got the rest of the story – at least from his perspective. 🙂

Up at the lake, we talked some more, had some quiet time together. Then I needed to take a walk to collect my thoughts and he needed time to himself with his wife, his emotions and their memories.

After leaving the lake, we talked some more, stopped for lunch in Greenville and drove home. The conversation was more of his memories of how he grew up and the people in his life. The two hour trip back to his house seemed to take about half the time it took to get up North.

Neither one of us are overly demonstrative kind of guys when it comes to showing emotion, but we hugged, told each other how much we loved one another and I think I might have gotten something in my eyes walking back to the van.

At that point after driving around for almost five hours and being on emotional overload for most of it, I needed a run.

So I headed over to Newport parked at the Hannaford and ran around the outskirts of town.

It wasn’t a fast run and that isn’t what I needed, I just wanted to get out move around someplace that I was very familiar with. I grew up on those streets and as I passed places that mean something to me, they took on a different look after talking so much with Dad earlier. Especially when running by my Grandparents old house and the house I consider my home over on Elm Street.

After that I still had to drive home. I put over 270 miles on the body today and by the time I did get home I was spent emotionally and physically. However, I believe that it was one of those days that I will remember for the rest of my life and I think that my father enjoyed the day as well.

Whatever time any of us have left on this little blue marble, I believe we need to remember what is important and that life is not always easy or even fair, but it is what we make it, based on the choices we make each day.

Today, I made a pretty good choice. 🙂

Nope Didn’t Feel Like Running At All – RunLog 10-9-18

I will be honest today I really didn’t feel like running – at all.

The weather might have played a bit of a factor in that blah feeling, since I have acclimated to the cooler temps and this morning was more like August than a third of the way through October.

Initially I was going to go over to Colby and play on the track for 5-7 miles, but when I got out of the Ford dealership, I had a bad case of the blahs and just turned to go home. By the time I got home the idea of running just didn’t appeal to me. So I sat on the couch and relaxed for about a half an hour.

I told myself that I would go out the door at 10:30a. Well that came and went.

I am going to take Dad up above Greenville tomorrow to pay our respects to my Mom and am pretty sure that it will end up being a DNR in the log book. The trip is very important to me, but at the same it is all about him, not me tomorrow, since I have a feeling that this might be one of the last times he makes this trip. He ain’t doing real great and well…its an important thing for us both.

Which meant that if I was going to have a decent weekly total that I had to get a few miles in today. So I grudgingly got my arse off the couch and got ready to run.

Tuesdays are supposed be a go faster day, so I was wearing my RunFasts and figured that I would see how I felt to whether I ran fast or just got the miles in.

The first mile was okay, but I felt forced, the second one while a little faster still felt forced and when I got past the 2.0 mile mark, I had to find a place to dash into the woods. I made it there, but not by much.

After that pit stop I lost focus, well I should say any interest in running hard. I didn’t push again until I got to mile 4.0 when I decided that I needed to get my butt going again. I picked up the pace, but still just didn’t feel all that interested in pushing myself hard as I normally would on this kind of day.

The heat probably did have something to do with everything and I was sweating like a stuck pig. However, I also didn’t have any motivation or drive to run faster.

At that point, I decided that I was going to just do the Goodhue 10K and stop at the bottom of Stevens Hill. This took a little pressure off and I just wilted that last part.

It was still a pretty good run, not as fast and certainly without the mental toughness that I would like have to do a harder run, but still with everything going on around the house and the sudden heat, I did get it done and sometimes the doing is most of the battle.

No Hills Today – RunLog 10-8-18

Some days, you just want to run a mostly flat route. Unfortunately, for me that means either driving someplace else to run or doing 1 mile laps on the road in front of the house. I didn’t really feel like driving so that meant doing laps in front of the house.

I guess I am somewhat strange, because doing laps really doesn’t bother me. I can just put the brain in neutral, start running, play a couple of mental tricks once in while and just keep plugging away.

Since I was too lazy to go anywhere else mile laps were the order for the day. Mondays are just for getting a few miles in and where I did a pretty good 7.0 yesterday, I figured 5.0 miles would be about right.

During the dog walk this morning, the way that the leashes hit my left wrist starts my Garmin by accident 3-4 times a walk and I have to discard the “run”. Which is a pain in the arse. So I after the 4th time I decided to put my Garmin on the right wrist. I have been wearing watches on my left wrist for 50 or so years and it just doesn’t feel “right” on my right wrist.

I purposely didn’t change it back for the run and noticed that whenever I wanted to check my pace at the end of a mile lap that I would raise my left wrist and grumble a bit. I never did get the splits for the first three miles until after I finished, which was probably a good thing.

So the first 3.0 miles, I ran blind and just ran pretty easy. That first mile my left ankle did bother a bit, but once it got loosened up, I ran on it without any issues. I think that if I attempt to run too much in my 4mm drop shoes without any transition time that they do bother my ankle a little more. The 8mm drop Breakthru 4s seem to help it, so I just have to remember to not run too often or consecutive days in the Zealot 3s or Liberty’s going forward.

I did pick up the effort for the last mile, but never got out of the comfortably hard effort level. Which turned the run into a sort of progression run, because each of the mile splits was quicker than previous one.

The Breakthru 4s did just fine.

I noticed that the bottoms of my feet have been bothering me quite a bit lately and when I looked at them after showering today, I noticed that both feet have some pretty nasty callous build-up. A lot more than I had thought was there. Which is something that I thought I was keeping up with, but when I looked closer, I needed to do some work on them.

Once I got the callouses reduced down to reasonable levels again, I could already feel a difference for the bottoms of my feet. Hopefully, having done this will help my feet feel better during my runs.

Another nice run, where I was smiling at the end.